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Too many buslines with low ridership continue to operate with standard buses when smaller ones can be used with contract services to keep cost down RT 87 Cleveland Ave is contracted and uses smaller buses the cost is lower. Crosstown routes are historically have low ridership. DALE ST ,#65 averages 8 riders/bus cost $1+M with duplicated segment for 1/3 of its routing on Selby. Burns Ave/ST Clair.#70 Stryker #75 Concord #71 46 th ST /50th st crosstown #46 Prospect park #8 averages about 4 riders per buses and the subsidy is 3 times the average buslines.Riders are within 1/4-1/2 mile to major buslines .This routes cost $400000 /yr to operate .taxi would be cheaper Subsidy is $7.60/riders who can walk to nearby buslines 1/4-12 mile to rt 2-16/60 every
Highland Bus#134/144 cost $1.1Million to operate where for 16 hours during rush hours most of the cost is labour non-revenue. ELIMINATE COMMUTER ROUTES in the two central cities where there are many existing buslines Drivers does not need to be paid to drive empty buses( out of service) Highland ,Uptown ,SE MPLS are examples where there are an abundant of services Providing one-seat ride is too expensive when drivers have to be paid to/from garages while there are empty seats of the existing routes in these areas.If frequencies are high on major local routes connections will be faster. Two millions dollars for redundant services can be save by reducing duplication and reduce labour cost on low ridership routes. In 1-2 years METC would ask for more money to operate the buses.Too many buses are idling wasting fuel also running a/c and the heat even they does not need to.

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MIDTOWN Station Mpls is good example of wasting money and unnecessary cost Buses have to detour into the parking wasting time and money Except for the #5 NB this  adds time to schedules and cost over a $1M /yr wasted but detouring  buses into the parking lot.Uptown TC is better use but just pull into the curb rather than detour several blocks.


Smith TC is useless because the only purpose for the bueses to layover so are the rest in MPls 5th/7th St garages

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SPAWL cost millions and create more pollution. In 1950 the metro area had 4 counties with1.1 million people Mpls and ST paul  832691 people (1 in 4 people used to live in Metro area) occuplied 1.721 sq mile

In 2000 there are 669769 in Mpls/St Paul with 3 Million people  in 13 counties  now occupied 6111 sq miles.

The population triple but the land use is  up more than 4 times then 1950 .Businesses are the one that help create this mess yet MET Council keep subsidizing the sprawl.Even Wi residents was getting subsidy for carpooling to MN .  

There are many in fills in the core cities and first ring suburbs yet METC even gave money to Ramsey where there is no transit for devlopment .

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The Twin Cities area is home to a surprisingly large number of civic governments for a region of its size.  While some of these have a distinct character and unique, individual identity (Anoka, Hopkins, Stillwater, Hastings, etc.), many others are just the result of townships and rural crossroads becoming incorporated cities (Blaine, Coon Rapids, Eagan, Woodbury, etc.).

A wider planning effort should examine the feasibility of and potential fiscal benefits to amalgamation of some of the jurisdictions in the area.  Other countries (Canada and Australia) and places within the United States (Nashville, Louisville) have performed some sort of amalgamation with varying degrees of success.

Imagine the merger of Hilltop, Columbia Heights, and Fridley into a single city.  Or Eagan, Apple Valley, and Rosemount; Landfall, Oakdale, and Maplewood; or White Bear Township, Dellwood, and Willernie.

This could also should be explored for some of the smaller metro school districts: Fridley, Spring Lake Park, etc.  Many of these school districts are already fairly arbitrarty in their geography as they often encapsulate only a portion of the city for which they are named.

While some may fret about the loss of their "city," if it meant more efficent service delivery at a lower taxpayer cost, they may not think it such a bad idea.

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The Twin Cities Region has roughly 181 units of local government plus 7 counties and at least 26 of them have populations of less than 1000 (I am excluding Townships and including only Cities). In addition, there are dozens of special districts, school districts, and watershed districts. This fragmented approach to local govenment hurts efforts to work collaboratively and across boundaries when it come sto natural resources, parks, sewer and water, and emergency services, not to mention it dilutes our voice at the state level when our representative have to split their attention among many small municipalities in the heart of the state's economic and population center.See Lilydale (pop. 631), Hilltop (pop. 781), Sunfush Lake (pop. 521), Mendota"NOT MENDOTA HEIGHTS" (pop. 204), and Landfall (pop. 767) for some examples of tiny cities in the heart of the region.

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